
https://www.sup.org/books/middle-east-studies/monuments-decolonized
Sultan Doughan: There is so much material to mine and ask questions about in this wonderful book, Monuments Decolonized: Algeria’s French Colonial Heritage, with so many beautiful and moving images. It is truly a monumental book! I am particularly intrigued by this last passage in the conclusion of the book:
“Algeria’s place in settler colonial theory by virtue of decolonization seems to offer closure in settler colonial studies because the country presents a self-contained, neatly bracketed evolution from its 1830 colonization to its 1962 decolonization. Since the Algerian Revolution first defined itself by anti-colonialism, the emergence of newer Algerian sensitivities attests to a transition: colonialism ceases to be the foundation of the state (even if negatively) and becomes one part of a complex patrimony to be used, repurposed, mobilized, valorized, and reclaimed. When viewed through the lens of a reproducible transcultural memory and shared heritage on both sides of the Mediterranean, the presence of Algerian memories about France’s places, beliefs, and ceremonial occasions, while saturated with painful violence and nostalgia, underscore how settler colonialism might end in the former colony. A post-settler passage into something else may be happening in Algeria, not in France.” (p. 199)
You trace in your book the actors that are “safeguarding the patrimony of French Algeria.” In most of your examples of Algerian monuments, we see how pedestals, plinths, stelae are reinterpreted, repurposed and rebuilt to replace former French war memorials and generals. It is certainly moving away from the French past and reclaiming history from an Algerian nation-state position. It could well be seen as a closure, as you yourself suggest in your last paragraph. To what effect do various actors safeguard the patrimony of French Algeria, or better how does the patrimony in fact safeguard colonial structures and unsettle notions of belonging and loyalty in the territorially demarcated nation-state, be it France or Algeria?
Susan Slyomovics: Ahmed Benyahia, the artist profiled in my last two book chapters (in addition, his painting is the book’s cover) was historically responsible for saving the most magnificent interwar colonial monument in Algeria. He convinced Constantine’s then mayor to keep the monument, and refuse the request of former European settlers of Constantine, who came to visit after Algerian independence and their relocation to France in 1962, with the sole purpose of taking the magnificent World War I monument with them to France. This was in fact the same protocol for the Oran war memorial described in chapter two, a rare case of legal removal in 1968 five years after Algerian independence. Benyahia’s argument was, and still is based on an expansive definition of provenance to determine the many ways that the Constantine war memorial is Algerian and should remain in Algeria: many war memorials and statues are made from Algerian stone because Algeria has extensive marble and stone quarries long exploited since Roman times; the artist who sculpted the giant Winged Victory figure on top of the war memorial was an Algerian Jew, Joseph Ebstein. His Winged Victory is a scaled-up copy of a delicate Roman statue found when the French troops “modernized” or “Haussmann-ized” Constantine, meaning they destroyed large swaths of the walled city after the French conquest to build their European city. The monument’s main section is a copy of the Roman arch of Timgad, some 100 miles away. The monument is incised with the names of Algerian soldiers who died fighting for France in two world wars. This included Benyahia’s own family members. Algeria was the only French colony with a mandatory conscription and military service beginning in 1913, just in time for World War I. And finally, Constantine’s war memorial was built with native Algerian labor. So, these definitions of provenance are both the conventional ones of art history, but also new ones linked to colonial violence – of a people, the land, the city, and their extracted materials. Provenance is more than reclamation; it is an assertion of ownership over a statue, and it comes with taking care of it in the place where it was originally sited.
Dan Hicks: I want to ask something about the place of Patrick Wolfe’s work and settler colonial studies in the study. In the introduction you discuss Wolfe’s famous line that “settler colonialism is a structure,”and then you write that“a statue is literally a structure meant to be looked at.” It would be great to hear more about how you apply settler colonial studies, and Wolfe’s work in particular, to the question of monuments and monumentality.
Susan Slyomovics: My influences are from Patrick Wolfe but more so Lorenzo Veracini, a colleague of Wolfe’s. Both came to UCLA, and I am lucky to know and learn from them since they write extensively about settler colonialism but with different emphases. In fact, Lorenzo and I organized a conference at UCLA in 2017 after Patrick’s death followed by our co-edited volume: Race, Place, Trace: Essays in Honour of Patrick Wolfe (London, Verso, 2022). Veracini writes about political sensibilities and the rhetorical traditions of settler-colonial expansion in his book, The World Turned Inside Out: Settler Colonialism as a Political Idea (London, Verso, 2021) which has a section on the Pied-Noirs or former European settlers of Algeria. Although Algeria began as failed convict colonialism, the colony was a place to move French Republicans in 1848, the Communards, the Spanish Republicans expelled from France to Algeria in the 1940s, all movements that established a new geopolitical order elsewhere. Overseas displacement to Algeria transformed Europe’s poor (or the revolutionary) into farmers, landholders, and settlers. After Algerian independence in 1962, European settler colonial traditions continue into the global present after the settlers were largely “repatriated” to France. The memories of the Algerian War of Independence (1954-62) are re-enacted in France as the loss of empire and grafted onto World War I and II commemorations, as in the rare case of the legally removed Oran war memorial statue now in Lyon, France that became a locus for settler “nostalgeria.” Now nostalgeria (in French nostalgérie) is a compound word – nostalgia plus Algeria – and it has real everyday consequences. Nostalgeria by European settlers of Algeria now in France imagines colonial Algeria as a place where Muslims and Europeans got along, a brotherhood of races and religions mixing. In reality, they have reproduced the legal and spatial actuality of a colonial Algeria divided by race and religion in France and many support the politics of anti-immigrant, anti-Arab, and Islamophobic views.
Dan Hicks: What about the connections between fallism and restitution? It would be great to hear more about the points you make around the differences between the Sarr-Savoy Report on sub-Saharan African collections and the Stora Report on Algeria. How does the history of repatriation to France (which involves war memorials, statues and statues, and people too) relate to issues of monuments. And thinking about returns in the other direction, how do your arguments play out in debates about longstanding demands for the return of Algerian archives, reparations, apologies for atrocities, and Macron’s memory politics?
Susan Slyomovics: I thought about some of these issues as I wrote the book when I published two relevant articles: “Commissioning Memorial Reconciliation: The Stora Report and Algeria’s Ottoman Cannon in France,” Modern and Contemporary France, 2023; and “Repairing Colonial Symmetry: Algerian Archive Restitution as Reparation for Crimes of Colonialism?” In Time for Reparations: A Global Perspective, edited by Jacqueline Bhabha, Margareta Matache, and Caroline Elkins (2021).
Since the archive of French Algeria remains largely in French hands, there is no escaping historical linkages between France’s settler colonial project in Algeria and ongoing disputes about archival sovereignty, provenance, and digitization. Who physically possesses the actual archive therefore raises issues about the afterlives of settler colonialism in France, the metropole, and human rights definitions of reparation and restitution. These ongoing disputes related to the colonial archive highlight theoretical, affective, and historical arguments and also serve as a real and symbolic proxy for unresolved claims against the former French colonial state over crimes its agents perpetrated during its period of conquest and rule in Algeria. While historian Benjamin Stora calls this “memory wars” in his Stora Report, in contrast, Algeria’s leadership speaks of colonial crimes that demand acknowledgment, restitution, and reparation. Numerous documented cases of French destruction of archives both during the 1830 conquest and 1962 independence bookend the extreme violence of imperialism and colonialism between those dates. Alexis de Toqueville was in Algeria in the 1830s and describes the French army’s wholesale, deliberate destruction of the archival record such as Ottoman property records, taxation rolls, manuscripts, entire libraries, institutional mortmain deeds – in fact and in deed, a deliberate state policy of destruction, replacement or removal. In 1971, then President of Algeria Houari Boumedienne established Algeria’s National Archives and launched an early campaign to recuperate archives held in France perhaps spurred by the creation in 1966, in Aix-en-Provence, of France’s overseas archives with an estimated 60% holdings from Algeria. More recently Algeria has made archival demands as a form of restitution grounded in Article 11 of the 2008 UN Declaration on Indigenous Rights pointing to archives taken without their prior informed consent and in violation of their laws, traditions and customs. Until the 1980s when Mitterand came to power in France, there were some archival restitutions usually as diplomatic gifts during state visits. So, the gift was not the acknowledged legal transfer. Only in 2007, were Algerians given the supposed gift of maps of mines placed alongside both their borders during the war, which after independence not only killed 30,000 people but also made large swaths of border lands uninhabitable. In addition, there is little agreement on digitization versus the original between the two nations, and to this day there is incomplete knowledge about the French holdings of Algerian materials. The Stora Report, commissioned by President Macron, does not come anywhere near the scholarly value of the Sarr-Savoy Report, which unequivocally states that objects deemed spoils of war resulting from punitive imperial military expeditions be restituted. Quantification of colonial violence visited on exotic objects preoccupies the Sarr-Savoy Report as the authors discuss two key concepts: tabulating plunder, a kind of numerical visibility, and ways to determine provenance. The Stora Report does none of that, but deals in platitudes about reconciling memories, with little detail, enumeration, what’s held where, and merely calls for more binational commissions, which have not happened. The Stora Report does mention an important Algerian object transformed into a war memorial in France which has been a major point of contention between the two nations. Algiers was defended successfully for several hundred years by massive Ottoman cannons. The city’s harbor was called the well-protected, encircled by Ottoman cannons that staved off incursions from Spain, and other nations. After the French conquest of Algeria, the French melted down some Ottoman cannons, one became a beautiful statue of St. Augustine which still stands in Algeria, while Algerians keep demanding another Algiers cannon, which was shipped to the French naval academy in Brittany in 1830. Cannons defending Algiers are horizontal facing the enemy outward, but this one was turned vertically upright, with the ubiquitous Gallic rooster placed on top and made into a war memorial. The two countries don’t agree on definitions of repatriation and reparation. French law refers to returning European settlers, some one million at independence, as “repatriates” and has enacted several reparation programs for settler losses after they departed from the colony at independence which facilitated their integration into France after 1962. In these ways France did not compensate the colonized in Algeria but rather reinvigorated the settler in France through “repatriation” and “reparation.” And Algeria has never stopped demanding pre-colonial archives and artifacts.





